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Post by Steve Jajo on Jul 10, 2010 18:26:12 GMT -7
 "Europeans had lived in the New World for 300 years before they made trails along the Humboldt River. Peter Skene Ogden and his British fur brigade were the first to meet the native Shashone. The trappers passed this site going east in 1828. In 1833 an American fur party led by Joseph Walker trapped in the area." "Elko County, Nevada." (photo, courtesy of California State Library, text taken from road sign at Hunter Overpass) |
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Post by sean on Jul 10, 2010 20:03:55 GMT -7
Steve,
Did that come out of Connor's book? I have that whole thing scanned somewhere around here. Walker is one of my favorites of the Fur Trade Era. l'm thinking this was the daguerrotype of him that was taken when he was mostly blind on his family's ranch in central CA.
Sean
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Post by Steve Jajo on Jul 11, 2010 6:51:11 GMT -7
Sean.
Yes ..the photo did come out of Connor's book. And I think you are right on the time period also.
Steve
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Post by sean on Jul 11, 2010 8:08:11 GMT -7
Steve,
Interesting book that give a really good look at Walker in his elder years prior to retiring in CA. I like it from that perspective and for its reference on the Apache in the 1850's. It is the primary reference for the death of Mangas Coloradas. I know a lot of folks get wrapped around the axle about being pre-1840's, but I'm really interested in the 1840s and 50's era in the SW especially with reference to the various bands of Apache.
Sean
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Post by Lloyd on Jul 11, 2010 19:56:12 GMT -7
Old Joe was one premiere Hoss Thief... And he only stole the good Californio stock....
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Post by sean on Jul 12, 2010 4:57:21 GMT -7
Lloyd,
One of Walker's biographers (Gilbert), thinks that the horse-thieving was actually mis-attributed to Walker and was actually done by the far-ranging Indian raider named Walkara. Gilbert established that Walker made several trips back and forth to CA to trade for livestock. In later years when he was guiding immigrant parties, Walker would purchase and drive stock back on the return trip for sale east of the divide. I actually see Walker as more of a stockman than a trapper.
There isn't a whole lot out there on Walkara, but there was a bio on him in Hafen's 10 volume set. He's definitely a guy I would like to know a bit more about.
Sean
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Post by Lloyd on Jul 12, 2010 11:22:48 GMT -7
Never heard that before.
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Post by sean on Jul 12, 2010 12:58:23 GMT -7
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Post by Lloyd on Jul 12, 2010 23:14:29 GMT -7
Sean, You ain't foolin me.... That's Johnny Cash   ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by sean on Jul 13, 2010 5:33:47 GMT -7
That might explain a few things about Johnny's early days.  Sean |
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Post by goat on Aug 29, 2010 18:59:55 GMT -7
Side note on Walker's route across the Sierra. A few years ago, a professor at Calif. State University was going to publish a book with the theory that Walker did not cross at Yosemite, but further north in the Ebbetts Pass area. The book was to be titled: A Way Across the Mountain: The 1833 Sierran Crossing of Joseph R. Walker by Scott Stine.
I have tried to contact Stine a couple of times without any luck, and the book title doesn't show up anywhere on an internet search. In reading some of the accounts of Walkers crossing, I can't find enough detail to argue one way or another. Food for thought.
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