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Post by Cap't Bridger on Jul 8, 2010 12:46:54 GMT -7
This is my Gobbels kettle for the 18th century stuff..but could you have seen something like this one during the Fur Trade era ? Thanks, guys.  |
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Post by Chuck Burrows on Jul 8, 2010 21:50:06 GMT -7
Mike I'm not real up on types of kettles in the RMFT, but there are a lot of kettles on the various trade lists and many if no most came from England.
On the other hand especially if you're doing the real early years of the RMFT than I see no reason why an earlier kettle couldn't be used.
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Post by Rod on Jul 9, 2010 12:08:04 GMT -7
Nothing wrong with that kettle. From what I understand, the thicker rim is indicative of French manufacture, but I also have been given to understand that the French continued to manufacture kettles for the North American trade well after the conquest.
Rod
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Post by Cap't Bridger on Jul 9, 2010 13:32:41 GMT -7
Thanks guys.
Good to know thats one item that'll work. I think from what I can gleen that it is indeed a French style kettle.
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Post by Steve Jajo on Jul 9, 2010 15:13:09 GMT -7
Now if only the Cap'n would learn how to cook.....that kettle would come in right handy!!! ;D
That is a right nice kettle!!
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Post by Lloyd on Jul 9, 2010 17:18:05 GMT -7
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Post by Librarian on Jul 9, 2010 17:35:26 GMT -7
How do!
You cook in it?
I thought I saw him wearing it as a helmet??
Seriously...
The kettle appears to be fine.
Prior to 1851, kettles were pounded to shape by water-powered trip hammers. A water wheel turned a shaft that had cams on it that lifted and dropped a number of hammers. Or hand hammered pounded to shape.
From there, the brass or copper kettles were sold "as is," or the finer ones were water-powered lathe turned.
I forget his name wthout looking it up, but some Connecticut man in 1851 patented the machinery for lathe spinning a kettle, and afterwards kettles made for the Indian trade as well as White trade were thinner spun ones.
Because they were thinner they wore out faster, and it is not unusual to find them patched with pieces of the older hand or trip hammer made ones.
They are archeologically found in many sites, such as "nesting sets" recovered from rapid sites where trade canoes were overturned.
Somewhere in my boxed library... I have ledgers that talk about tin, brass, and copper kettles in the Indian Trade.
What struck my Modern Self odd, is that the tin ones were more highly prized and often appear on the goods going to chiefs (where we might would think to place tinned iron last after copper then brass?)
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Post by Cap't Bridger on Jul 9, 2010 19:08:09 GMT -7
I tried to use it as a helmet, but my head is too big. (that subjects covered on another board LOL)
Seriously, thanks
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Post by marcus on Aug 6, 2010 14:44:30 GMT -7
The fellers name was Hayden and his patent was for modification to the machinery then in use to spin the softer metal, pewter.
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Post by tumbleweed on Mar 21, 2011 14:59:34 GMT -7
Looks like a fine kettle.Is it light ? Where did you get it and can i have the E address ? Nice Longhunter knife too.
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Post by Rod on Mar 22, 2011 10:04:30 GMT -7
I believe Peter Gobel at Goose Bay is making a limited run of those right now---call him to confirm, if you're interested. www.goosebay-workshops.com/Also, Jim Kimpell makes nice brass kettles. He cuts down the modern repros (Crazy Crow, etc.), rerims them, adds the correct folded ears and bail, and retins the interior. www.highhorsetrading.com/If you're looking for a tinned sheet iron kettle, Carl Giordano makes a nice one, take a look at his camp kettle. It's a bigger size, but made of hot dipped tin. www.cg-tinsmith.com/Rod |
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