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Post by Leifer on Oct 21, 2013 8:53:15 GMT -7
This is a subject I'd appreciate some discussion on. What about the use of a pack on your back? I know we can document market wallets, saddle bags, bedrolls and such. Can we document forms of "back packs?". I've seen more of this type of information for folks out east in colonial America, but not as much for Western Fur Trade. Maybe I haven't delved deep enough yet.
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Post by isaac on Oct 21, 2013 10:56:16 GMT -7
I am curious as well as to what people find as well, but am afraid little is out there since most travel was not on foot but on hoof.
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Post by Pare on Oct 21, 2013 12:59:37 GMT -7
I've always wondered about that, too... but then got distracted with other research. There may not be any documentation to support the use of a pack frame. I think the idea was always there though, since it was used back East, where most of the men came from. I need to dig deeper into it, too.
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Post by Leifer on Oct 21, 2013 20:37:37 GMT -7
I've seen where some people have essentially taken a haversack and put two armstraps on to essentially wear like a backpack to use for trekking, but I don't know if that can be documented. And by '"trekking" I don't mean "Star Trekking"  |
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Post by isaac on Oct 22, 2013 10:22:35 GMT -7
I've seen where some people have essentially taken a haversack and put two armstraps on to essentially wear like a backpack to use for trekking, but I don't know if that can be documented. And by '"trekking" I don't mean "Star Trekking" That would likely be a simple knapsack. Many different types of packs existed in the 18th and 19th century. The question is, which, if any, were used in the west. IW |
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Post by luke on Nov 3, 2013 7:38:35 GMT -7
Im of a mind that the biggest user of backpacks out west were the military. When you start looking at 19th Century military backpacks, be prepared for sticker shock! You could almost buy all the parts needed for that trade gun for the price of a pack......
And truth be told, they don't work that well....
IMHO, a blanket roll and a market wallet would work best of all for portraying someone who has lost their horses.
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Post by Pare on Jan 25, 2014 23:08:34 GMT -7
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Post by marvin on Jan 29, 2014 16:32:14 GMT -7
Check out AJ Miller's drawings where you will see the camp setup scenes with bedrolls and flat packs. The cinch strap used to hold the saddle to horse would have come in handy as a pack strap if one had to go on foot but not sure if it is documented to have been used in that fashion.
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Post by Leifer on Jan 30, 2014 8:34:28 GMT -7
Thanks for the responses guys. Pare, I saw the pic you posted on Facebook thanks for that. Marvin, I'll have to go through my picture files and look for those. Thanks guys.
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Post by matthew on Oct 17, 2014 18:36:46 GMT -7
hello. i'm new to here and just getting into rocky mountain fur trade stuff. anyways there is supposedly in the fenn gallery in santa fe a small oil by miller titled "a narrow escape" that shows two trappers and one is wearing a knapsack with a blanket on top. maybe somebody on the board is close to santa fe and could look into this.
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Post by isaac on Oct 17, 2014 19:01:03 GMT -7
hello. i'm new to here and just getting into rocky mountain fur trade stuff. anyways there is supposedly in the fenn gallery in santa fe a small oil by miller titled "a narrow escape" that shows two trappers and one is wearing a knapsack with a blanket on top. maybe somebody on the board is close to santa fe and could look into this. |
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Post by matthew on Oct 18, 2014 6:17:40 GMT -7
thanks isaac! i tried to find an online image of it to no avail.
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Post by Pare on Oct 18, 2014 17:36:25 GMT -7
Welcome to the board, Matt!
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Post by Chuck Burrows on Oct 18, 2014 19:53:29 GMT -7
Yes welcome Matt and I enlarged an cleaned up that image to make it easier to interpret: 
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Post by matthew on Oct 19, 2014 6:10:13 GMT -7
thanks pare and thanks chuck. pretty cool board goin on here i think.
the image is awfully interesting. the one guy appears to have a metal canteen. wish it showed the knapsack better.
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