Two hide or three hide dress decoration

[Dan'l Hickham]

Well, I need suggestions or sites as to what and how to decorate at two or 3 hide dress - ca 1807-1810 Northern Paiute or Shoshoni - or perhaps southern Cheyenne

[Beaver Hunter]

The Identity by Design is a great website that allows you to zoom in to actual size. Great for looking at the details!

www.nmai.si.edu/exhibitions/identity_by_design/IdentityByDesign.html

It doesn't seem to work in Google Chrome, but will open just fine in Internet Explorer or Firefox.



I recommend the book 19th Century Indian Dresses by Susan Jennys

www.amazon.com/19th-Cen...resses/dp/1929572018



This blog shows step-by-step how to make a two-hide dress and the research is excellent.

stitchinguphistory.blogspot.com/

[Chuck Burrows]

1) Basically that early there are no real well known tribal differences for decoration, etc. amongst the Upper Missouri/Western tribes
2) Get a copy of Colin Taylor's "Yupika - The Plains Indian Woman's Dress"
3) Join the Yahoo group - it's free although you will need to get a Yahoo email email groups.yahoo.com/group/PlainsIndianSeminartwo/?yguid=174734538
Then check their attachments - recently there were several images of original side fold dresses posted hat are seldom seen since most are in Euro museums. I down loaded most of the pics, but many are in large scale format
4) womenofthefurtrade.com/page9.html - there are several originals posted there

For that early I would recommend mostly quillwork (especially if Cheyenne) with some pound beads ( 8/0 size is correct and I like the Crazy Crow Old Time French or German beads since they are closer to the original "softer" colors. Other deco items used then and there: Tin cones, cowrie shells, dentalium shells, brass beads, paint, fringe, brass buttons.

[Dan'l Hickham]

I'd stick to pretty much plain for that period - not much info out there that I can find. A bit of beadwork would be Ok and maybe a few big harness spots or very simple button types conchos (Not Navajo per se, but more like the early hair plates).
Buckled with a double D style buckle or a simple roller buckle would be appropriate - width no more than 2 ". Or it could be tied in front.
There are also Cheyenne style belt and bag combos that would be appropriate for time and place -
Go to here:
www.splendidheritage.com/nindex.html
then select region: PLains
category: knife-knifecase
everything else leave :all
then click Display:
you should then get on the bottom left item WC9508009
click on the thumbnail to see a larger image .
I would not go so heavily beaded but the basic style is appropriate for the 1820's central/So Plains and Mtns.

[Dan'l Hickham]

thanks